Summit engages business leaders, scholars and policymakers
The 2017 SIEPR Economic Summit drew an engaging mix of insights from experts in academia, industry and policy, taking participants on a daylong ride from the dark days of Wall Street and the Golden Age of Hollywood to the uncertain future of the world鈥檚 geopolitical shifts.
The annual event, in its 14th year, featured panel discussions and two keynotes 鈥 one from former National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley and another from former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers.
Highlights from the March 10 panels and keynotes 鈥 and opportunities to watch recordings of each session 鈥 are below. is also on our YouTube channel.
Additional sessions were held on , and .
More information about the panelists and featured speakers can be found on the Summit agenda.
From Wall Street to Silicon Valley: A conversation with Ruth Porat
Google is in its 20s. While its youthful exuberance 鈥 as reflected in the company鈥檚 鈥渕oonshot鈥 divisions or Area 120 incubator projects 鈥 hasn鈥檛 waned, its massive growth during the past two decades means there鈥檚 more work cut out for the giant of Silicon Valley than ever before.
鈥淢arket cap, revenues or the number of employees is not necessarily a metric of maturity. It鈥檚 what questions or problems we鈥檙e trying to solve,鈥 said Ruth Porat, chief financial officer of Alphabet Inc., Google鈥檚 parent company.
Google, for instance, is only scratching the surface of enterprise businesses; driverless cars are still at an open stage; and there鈥檚 still the challenge of providing universally accessible information, she said. Google is also always looking to take its products to the next level 鈥 whether by enhancing viewing recommendations for YouTube users or improving voice-based search.
Porat joined Alphabet in 2015 and led Google鈥檚 restructuring after serving nearly 20 years at Morgan Stanley, including five as its CFO and 10 as its global lead of various banking and investment divisions.
Porat, the vice chair of 好色App鈥檚 Board of Trustees and a 好色App alumna, opened the Summit with a conversation with Mark Duggan, the Trione Director of SIEPR. Given her former front-row seat on Wall Street, Duggan asked Porat to recall the 2008 financial crisis and defining moments leading to the stock market crash that came with it.
鈥淚t was an absolutely terrifying time. We were all acutely aware we were on the brink of something that was so destructive,鈥 she said.
Yet, 鈥渨e never could see it coming with the speed of the unraveling,鈥 she continued. 鈥淟iterally, we could feel the 鈥 markets choking.鈥
What lessons were learned?
Know your source of vulnerability, she said. Build systems, controls and risk metrics for differentiated strategies well ahead of time. Have the will and means. Provide leadership. And most importantly, set a culture.
鈥淣o rules and regulations can govern behavior the way culture can,鈥 Porat said.
And, she noted, the lessons are as relevant for Wall Street as it is in the tech universe.
The financial sector could learn a thing from Googlers, too, she added, referring to how transparency is practiced at the Silicon Valley鈥揵ased firm during weekly all-staff meetings. Ideas and products are discussed, and employees can question Google co-founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin, who always show up.
鈥淚t鈥檚 one of the most powerful tools鈥 at Google, she said.
She said that stands in contrast to the financial world, where 鈥渢here were areas within banks that knew there were risk positions we were taking on that were crazy, but there was no voice. Things got trapped.鈥
for more of Porat鈥檚 perspectives, and to see how she responded to audience questions about controversial changes brewing under the new Trump administration.
Asia鈥檚 economic and policy outlook
The next engine of global economic growth will come from the developing world 鈥 not developed countries 鈥 and emerging markets in Asia hold lots of potential, panelists said during the second session of the Summit.
Countries, such as Bangladesh or Pakistan, each have their natural trends of growth. The challenge is finding ways to help the emerging economies continue to grow.
鈥淲e can create a lot more demand, which the developing economy has been looking for, for a long time,鈥 said Jin-Yong Cai, a partner at TPG Capital and former CEO of International Finance Corporation.
Cai鈥檚 fellow panelist was Shang-Jin Wei, the N.T. Wang Professor of Chinese Business and Economy at Columbia Business School. Helen Qiao, the chief economist for Greater China at Bank of America Merrill Lynch who holds a PhD from 好色App, moderated the discussion.
In the meantime, China鈥檚 explosive pace of growth over the past 20 years cannot be repeated, Cai said.
鈥淐hina鈥檚 economic growth will be able to continue. It doesn鈥檛 have to be at 10 percent, but it could be 6, 7 percent that can go on for a long, long time because there鈥檚 such room for efficiency gains,鈥 he said.
The issue for the Asian superpower will be execution, Cai said, as the bureaucracy attempts to scale back its heavy-handed approach and reallocate resources.
鈥淕oing forward, if the market forces are not coming in to play a much more decisive role, we are going to have a real problem,鈥 he said.
Wei also pointed to the role of innovation as a growth engine.
鈥淢ost innovation comes from private sector first, but most of the innovation subsidies go to state-owned firms,鈥 he said.
鈥淚f the government can do less and create a more even playing field, it will accelerate productivity,鈥 Wei said.
To maintain its strength, China will also need to develop its financial services sector.
鈥淥ur bankers are not trained; all they can do is check boxes,鈥 Cai said.
鈥淲hen it comes to China, it鈥檚 very large in size, but in terms of capability, it鈥檚 still a teenager.鈥
for more on the panelists鈥 views on trade, regulation and other geopolitical issues.
National security in a changing world
For the first time, an insurgency has captured the White House. That鈥檚 the political snapshot taken by Stephen Hadley, former National Security Adviser to President George W. Bush.
President Trump tapped into a group of people who felt betrayed by globalization, thought their economic futures were dim, and felt the political system was not listening to them and benefited only the elites, Hadley said in delivering the luncheon keynote at the Summit
鈥淭rump was the vehicle, or the instrument of the people who wanted to bring their discontent to the fore,鈥 Hadley said.
In a sense, presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders and Trump were basically two sides of the same coin, he said.
The Trump administration鈥檚 transition will take longer and be bumpier than usual, but 鈥渁t the end of the day, events will shape policy,鈥 Hadley said.
It鈥檚 not a pretty situation. Hadley, a principal at RiceHadleyGates LLC, cited 鈥渃haos, a lot of economic melees and global dysfunction,鈥 in which the global order is breaking down with the rise in terrorism and resurgence of power from Russia and China.
Previous administrations had a more expansionist, long-term view. Trump, on the other hand, has a more short-term, narrow view of American interests, including taking on 鈥渁n almost zero-sum approach to trade.鈥
鈥淭here鈥檚 a real uncertainty about America鈥檚 leadership,鈥 Hadley said, 鈥渨hether we will continue to do what we did for the past seven years, which is to try and maintain an international world order.鈥
America needs to restore the sources of its strength, Hadley said. It will need to produce inclusive economic growth, break the political gridlock, and start solving its social problems.
And history shows that our nation should not sit on the sidelines, he said. It should prepare its military and alliances to lead a revised international world order.
Katherine Casey, associate professor of political economy and a SIEPR faculty fellow, moderated the address and steered Hadley to other hot-button issues facing the administration: Russia鈥檚 involvement with the U.S. election and Trump鈥檚 alienation of the National Security Agency.
鈥淭he Russians shouldn鈥檛 have done what they did in the election, but what are we going to do to make sure it doesn鈥檛 happen again?鈥 Hadley said.
And by speaking out against Trump 鈥 both before and after the election 鈥 members of the intelligence community broke with a tradition of staying apolitical.
鈥淲e have so politicized the process,鈥 Hadley said, 鈥淚 just hope we can come back to a more traditional position where those professional services are staying out of politics.鈥
for the full keynote, and watch as audience members, including former Secretary of State George Shultz questioned what happens now that the U.S. is 鈥渟crewing up鈥 our North American trading partner, and 好色App President Emeritus Gerhard Casper advocated for the need to address 鈥渙ur rotten primary system.鈥
鈥淲e need to find a way to fix that,鈥 Hadley agreed. 鈥淭his polarization in our politics makes our political system dysfunctional.鈥
The on-demand economy
Burgeoning peer-to-peer companies like Uber or Airbnb have received plenty of public attention in recent years, but in the big picture, the so-called on-demand economy constitutes only a small portion of the labor force.
鈥淏ut it is an important dynamic because it is growing so rapidly,鈥 said Diana Farrell, president and CEO of JPMorgan Chase Institute.
Farrell was joined by Betsy Masiello, director of the Public Policy and Economics team at Uber, during the Summit鈥檚 fourth session that dug into the economic sector that is rattling labor industries. Jon Levin, a SIEPR senior fellow who is also the Philip H. Knight Professor and Dean of the 好色App Graduate School of Business, moderated.
All the talk about how these online platforms 鈥 where buyers and sellers or service workers and customers communicate directly with each other 鈥 are revolutionizing the nature of work is tempered by industry data. In addition to Uber and Airbnb, other gig-based businesses like Instacart or TaskRabbit comprised a total of 42 online platforms in 2016.
The growth rate of participation in the online platform economy has slowed since a peak in 2014, Farrell said, falling from the 400 percent range to about a 200 percent year-over-year growth rate today.
Cumulatively over the past three years, an estimated 4 percent of American adults earned income at one point through these online platforms.
鈥淭hat鈥檚 10 million Americans who are participating, but that鈥檚 certainly not the future of work,鈥 Farrell said.
Engagement is often sporadic; turnover is high; and for the majority of on-demand labor participants, the work serves as supplemental income, she explained.
鈥淢ost of the growth relies on new participants,鈥 she said. 鈥淚t鈥檚 not deepening.鈥
These labor opportunities fulfill a need in the market, but leaves open the question of worker benefits and other protections, such as insurance coverage, Farrell said.
From Uber鈥檚 point of view, the ride-hailing service facilitates a flexible avenue for income, Masiello said.
In places like Paris, Mexico, or Egypt, she said, 40 to 50 percent of its drivers were unemployed before.
The company has its core principles of consumer protection and safety but is also focusing on making improvements for drivers, Masiello said. Examples include finding ways to mitigate the cost of gas or maintaining their vehicles.
Levin noted how studies have found discriminatory behavior against users of Uber or Airbnb. He asked if such companies bear responsibility for that.
Masiello said a ban on discrimination is in the Uber worker contract. 鈥淏ut there is no easy answer here,鈥 she said.
These online platform business models are evolving in creative and innovative ways, Farrell said, and the challenge will be to figure out what policy changes are needed to create an infrastructure that will make it work for everyone over a sustainable period of time.
鈥淔or now, let鈥檚 celebrate the innovations and recognize the need to be informed as we take this into the policy environment,鈥 she said.
for the full discussion on the current and future challenges of the on-demand economy.
The ever-changing business of entertainment
The movie industry has heard the story over and over again: It鈥檚 dying.
First, radio was going to crush it. Then it was TV, followed by video games and computers, then TiVo.
But the film industry survived, and as panelists for the Summit鈥檚 fifth session highlighted, global sales are growing.
Today, 鈥渨e do feel we are in a strong position in the movie industry, but never before have we had so many disruptors get in our way,鈥 said Jeff Small, president and co-CEO of Amblin Partners, formerly named DreamWorks Studios.
Netflix, Amazon, YouTube and Facebook are just a sampling of what movies are competing with nowadays. Notwithstanding the cost of going to the movies, it鈥檚 also hard to beat the comfort of watching movies at home.
But theaters are making efforts to sweeten the attraction for moviegoers, by adding luxury seating or better food and beverage options, said Small, a 好色App graduate.
Panelist Brooks Barnes, a reporter for The New York Times who has covered the media and entertainment industry for the past 15 years, said studios are also trying a lot harder to improve quality.
Three years ago, Barnes recalled, critics were harsh generally on every summer release. Now, blockbuster movies 鈥 whether it鈥檚 a Disney film, horror or superhero flick, are able to get positive reviews.
Meanwhile, digital piracy remains a powerful villain. And potential customers are left in the dark about when and which method they鈥檒l be able to catch a movie after it leaves theaters.
Hollywood studios do an 鈥渁trocious job鈥 of communicating that, Barnes said 鈥 and Small concurred. But due to lucrative partnerships with exhibitors and distributors, studios are reluctant to make drastic changes to their movie-release time frames, Small explained.
鈥淣o one wants to be the first one to say, 鈥榊ou鈥檙e going to be the first one to be in movie theaters and in homes on the same day,鈥欌 Barnes said.
鈥淏ut at some point over time,鈥 Small said, 鈥渨ith piracy, we are going to have to keep evolving so we don鈥檛 crash and burn.鈥
Domestic box-office sales have been relatively flat and hit about $11.4 billion last year. The industry鈥檚 global growth trajectory 鈥 projected to climb from $27 billion in 2016 to $30 billion in 2017 鈥 stems mainly from Asia.
For more of an inside look at the movie industry on your very own screen, .
Lawrence Summers: Rage against the elites
Lawrence Summers has never shied away from controversy 鈥 and his pointed message to the academics, policymakers and business leaders attending the Summit鈥檚 final session immediately grabbed the room鈥檚 attention.
鈥淭he very elitism of this group,鈥 the former Treasury Secretary said in his opening remarks, 鈥渕akes it, I think, an appropriate one for what I want to discuss tonight.鈥
His message: Many American workers have suffered because of technology鈥檚 advances and globalization. And there are clear reasons why they disdain Congress, banks, the media and nearly every major institution aside from the military.
The United States, he pointed out, each year spends on distressed communities at home only a fifth the amount of money it does on foreign aid. Trade deals fixate more on protecting companies鈥 intellectual property rights than jobs or the environment. On reducing the federal debt, policymakers talk about finding the courage to cut Social Security benefits 鈥 which, Summers pointed out, are capped at $35,000 a year per American.
And that鈥檚 left many voters very angry, he said.
鈥淚t shouldn鈥檛 be inexplicable that there is rage and anger against elites,鈥 said Summers, who served in the Clinton administration and is now President Emeritus of Harvard and a distinguished visiting scholar at SIEPR.
The core problem, he continued, is not gridlock in Washington, but the widespread perception that 鈥渢hose involved in leadership do not respect them and do not continue to feel a strong connection for them.鈥
Exhibit A, he said, is Trump鈥檚 November victory.
But while trade deals, support for businesses, and diversity in higher education are all worthy goals, he said there isn鈥檛 yet a 鈥渧iable political formula鈥 for achieving those policies in ways that make economic sense without alienating huge swaths of the American electorate.
What is needed is a nationalism in the United States that is both 鈥渞esponsive鈥 and economically 鈥渞esponsible,鈥 he said.
He suggested three guiding principles. First, the United States should negotiate 鈥渋nternational cooperative projects鈥 that prioritize a range of interests. For example, he said, broker agreements to cut down on overseas tax shelters for American businesses. Second, the same commitment to getting broad buy-in should apply to national policies. On that score, he praised the recent proposal for a carbon tax to be rebated in equal amounts to every American. Third, he urged a return to national policies that are universal in nature, and don鈥檛 just target specific groups.
鈥淚t has tended to be the case over time that programs for poor people are poor programs,鈥 said Summers. The more successful programs, like public education and Medicare, 鈥渉ave had as their virtue, universalism.鈥
John Shoven, a SIEPR senior fellow and the institute鈥檚 former director, moderated the talk. In response to a Shoven question, Summers put most of the blame for the struggles of American workers on technology鈥檚 shoulders. When asked about the startling stock market rally since Trump鈥檚 election, Summers recalled that the stock market had an even stronger rally in the three months after Herbert Hoover was elected, a year before the market crash that started the Depression.
鈥淭he observation,鈥 said Summers, 鈥渟hould be cautionary for anyone who thinks that we can assume all will be well.鈥
, including his thoughts on a current policy proposal that could conceivably trigger a Boeing-Walmart merger, and his penchant for bluntness.